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		By: RK		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, in Matthew 25:24-27 and Luke 19:20-23, the slackers in each of the parables seemed to take their master to be that kind of capitalist. (In each case, the master standing in for God neither affirms nor denies the assessment, basically saying &quot;So—genius—if I&#039;m the kind of guy who likes to &lt;i&gt;exploit&lt;/i&gt; others for profit as you say, then why didn&#039;t you use the money to get me something I could &lt;i&gt;exploit&lt;/i&gt;!?&quot;) Of course, the analogy breaks down in view of God owning the entire &quot;system&quot; (i.e. the universe) already; how can a guy with infinite wealth get any wealthier?

Such is the mystery at the foundation of our faith: &quot;What&#039;s in it for God? Why does He value us so highly?&quot; The only honest answer we can give such questions is &quot;No explanation is forthcoming. He just does.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in Matthew 25:24-27 and Luke 19:20-23, the slackers in each of the parables seemed to take their master to be that kind of capitalist. (In each case, the master standing in for God neither affirms nor denies the assessment, basically saying &#8220;So—genius—if I&#8217;m the kind of guy who likes to <i>exploit</i> others for profit as you say, then why didn&#8217;t you use the money to get me something I could <i>exploit</i>!?&#8221;) Of course, the analogy breaks down in view of God owning the entire &#8220;system&#8221; (i.e. the universe) already; how can a guy with infinite wealth get any wealthier?</p>
<p>Such is the mystery at the foundation of our faith: &#8220;What&#8217;s in it for God? Why does He value us so highly?&#8221; The only honest answer we can give such questions is &#8220;No explanation is forthcoming. He just does.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Nathan		</title>
		<link>https://nathanshumate.com/the-worth-of-souls/#comment-4494</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, well - &quot;capitalist&quot; in the sense used elsewhere in my remarks, as an investor who gets more out of the system than he puts in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, well &#8211; &#8220;capitalist&#8221; in the sense used elsewhere in my remarks, as an investor who gets more out of the system than he puts in.</p>
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		By: RK		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2025 00:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eh, God may not be a &quot;good capitalist&quot; in the sense of being a shrewd investor, but in terms of what &lt;i&gt;capitalism&lt;/i&gt; itself by definition is? Bearing in mind that capitalism&#039;s enemies are the very ones who coined the word, God is a &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; good capitalist; the various brands of socialists who&#039;ve been trying to replace capitalism with any other system these last few centuries were always trying to come up with an enforceable alternative to its central tenet: any given item (product or service) is worth exactly &lt;i&gt;what someone will give for it&lt;/i&gt;, no more and no less. Considering what God gave in exchange for &lt;i&gt;us&lt;/i&gt;, that makes us very valuable indeed... albeit only in &lt;i&gt;His&lt;/i&gt; eyes, as you note; that &lt;i&gt;no one else&lt;/i&gt; would ever pay that much is not particularly relevant, no matter how much capitalism&#039;s detractors wish it were.

Of course, the way God assigns us this value is neither particularly &lt;i&gt;fair&lt;/i&gt; nor economically shrewd, but that&#039;s actually kind of the point our Messiah made in at least three parables he told us: Matthew 20:1-16, Matthew 25:14-30, and Luke 19:11-27. We&#039;re valuable because of what God gave (and will give) for us, not because we&#039;ve ever had any inherent value that made this a &quot;fair&quot; price God could ever be compelled to pay. The King (or the landowner in that first parable) rewards his laborers (and punishes the slackers) as he sees fit, not as some worldly notions of &quot;justice&quot; or &quot;fairness&quot; demand.

Oddly enough, your conclusion reminds me of the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rElJT0UUpwI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;end of the animated movie &lt;i&gt;Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, in which Bruce Wayne gently chides his successor Terry McGinniss for telling him (at the beginning of the movie) that he saw putting on the suit and taking up Batman&#039;s crusade against crime as a way of redeeming himself for some of his earlier failings as a juvenile delinquent. &quot;I&#039;ve been thinking about something you once told me; and you were wrong. It&#039;s not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it&#039;s the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.&quot; Likewise, we don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;earn&lt;/i&gt; our value in God&#039;s eyes by taking up various crusades and doing what is good and right, we take up those crusades and do what&#039;s good and right &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; God loves and values us so much; getting this cause-and-effect relationship reversed in our doctrine is arguably the one easy heretical mistake to make that has brought more disaster to Christians down through the centuries than just about any other mistake we&#039;ve ever made.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, God may not be a &#8220;good capitalist&#8221; in the sense of being a shrewd investor, but in terms of what <i>capitalism</i> itself by definition is? Bearing in mind that capitalism&#8217;s enemies are the very ones who coined the word, God is a <i>very</i> good capitalist; the various brands of socialists who&#8217;ve been trying to replace capitalism with any other system these last few centuries were always trying to come up with an enforceable alternative to its central tenet: any given item (product or service) is worth exactly <i>what someone will give for it</i>, no more and no less. Considering what God gave in exchange for <i>us</i>, that makes us very valuable indeed&#8230; albeit only in <i>His</i> eyes, as you note; that <i>no one else</i> would ever pay that much is not particularly relevant, no matter how much capitalism&#8217;s detractors wish it were.</p>
<p>Of course, the way God assigns us this value is neither particularly <i>fair</i> nor economically shrewd, but that&#8217;s actually kind of the point our Messiah made in at least three parables he told us: Matthew 20:1-16, Matthew 25:14-30, and Luke 19:11-27. We&#8217;re valuable because of what God gave (and will give) for us, not because we&#8217;ve ever had any inherent value that made this a &#8220;fair&#8221; price God could ever be compelled to pay. The King (or the landowner in that first parable) rewards his laborers (and punishes the slackers) as he sees fit, not as some worldly notions of &#8220;justice&#8221; or &#8220;fairness&#8221; demand.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, your conclusion reminds me of the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rElJT0UUpwI" rel="nofollow ugc">end of the animated movie <i>Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker</i></a>, in which Bruce Wayne gently chides his successor Terry McGinniss for telling him (at the beginning of the movie) that he saw putting on the suit and taking up Batman&#8217;s crusade against crime as a way of redeeming himself for some of his earlier failings as a juvenile delinquent. &#8220;I&#8217;ve been thinking about something you once told me; and you were wrong. It&#8217;s not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it&#8217;s the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.&#8221; Likewise, we don&#8217;t <i>earn</i> our value in God&#8217;s eyes by taking up various crusades and doing what is good and right, we take up those crusades and do what&#8217;s good and right <i>because</i> God loves and values us so much; getting this cause-and-effect relationship reversed in our doctrine is arguably the one easy heretical mistake to make that has brought more disaster to Christians down through the centuries than just about any other mistake we&#8217;ve ever made.</p>
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