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		By: Nathan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2015 15:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nathanshumate.com/the-latest-bad-idea-a-post-apocalyptic-movie-book/#comment-522&quot;&gt;RK&lt;/a&gt;.

Quite so. The fact that a story takes place sometime after an apocalypse isn&#039;t sufficient (by that standard, the &quot;Atomic Horrors&quot; make all of the STAR TREK franchise post-apocalyptic).  The milieu has to be defined BY being post-apocalyptic; even if it&#039;s centuries later, the effects of society&#039;s demise plus whatever caused it (nuclear war, plague, etc.) have to be the major determiners of the environment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nathanshumate.com/the-latest-bad-idea-a-post-apocalyptic-movie-book/#comment-522">RK</a>.</p>
<p>Quite so. The fact that a story takes place sometime after an apocalypse isn&#8217;t sufficient (by that standard, the &#8220;Atomic Horrors&#8221; make all of the STAR TREK franchise post-apocalyptic).  The milieu has to be defined BY being post-apocalyptic; even if it&#8217;s centuries later, the effects of society&#8217;s demise plus whatever caused it (nuclear war, plague, etc.) have to be the major determiners of the environment.</p>
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		By: RK		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2015 04:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems to me you might also want to stipulate that in a post-apocalyptic film, the infrastructure &lt;i&gt;stays&lt;/i&gt; broken down for at least most of the duration of the story. One story I wouldn&#039;t consider post-apocalyptic even though it takes place after a civilization-destroying apocalypse, for instance, is &lt;i&gt;Vampire Knight&lt;/i&gt;. You would already have scratched that one off your list because it&#039;s an anime, and also because it&#039;s a series rather than a movie. I would scratch it off mainly because the apocalypse is nothing but a distant bit of back-story only shown to us (near the end) to explain why the current civilization looks so Gothic and Victorian, and yet people have electric lights and are driving around in automobiles.

This would also be a good reason why &lt;i&gt;Millennium (1989)&lt;/i&gt; doesn&#039;t qualify as a post-apocalyptic film. Apart from the characters from the hideous post-apocalyptic future spending a lot of their time in the pre-apocalyptic past, their hideously polluted post-apocalyptic future is still remarkably &lt;i&gt;civilized&lt;/i&gt;. In the novel, I seem to recall it being mentioned that in fact the future had already been through &lt;i&gt;eight&lt;/i&gt; nuclear wars... and yet, there was still a lot of modern civilization&#039;s infrastructure there. If the rebuilt civilization is very much more advanced than its predecessor was in, say, medieval times, I&#039;d say that&#039;s not really a post-apocalyptic story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me you might also want to stipulate that in a post-apocalyptic film, the infrastructure <i>stays</i> broken down for at least most of the duration of the story. One story I wouldn&#8217;t consider post-apocalyptic even though it takes place after a civilization-destroying apocalypse, for instance, is <i>Vampire Knight</i>. You would already have scratched that one off your list because it&#8217;s an anime, and also because it&#8217;s a series rather than a movie. I would scratch it off mainly because the apocalypse is nothing but a distant bit of back-story only shown to us (near the end) to explain why the current civilization looks so Gothic and Victorian, and yet people have electric lights and are driving around in automobiles.</p>
<p>This would also be a good reason why <i>Millennium (1989)</i> doesn&#8217;t qualify as a post-apocalyptic film. Apart from the characters from the hideous post-apocalyptic future spending a lot of their time in the pre-apocalyptic past, their hideously polluted post-apocalyptic future is still remarkably <i>civilized</i>. In the novel, I seem to recall it being mentioned that in fact the future had already been through <i>eight</i> nuclear wars&#8230; and yet, there was still a lot of modern civilization&#8217;s infrastructure there. If the rebuilt civilization is very much more advanced than its predecessor was in, say, medieval times, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s not really a post-apocalyptic story.</p>
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		By: Nathan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 22:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nathanshumate.com/the-latest-bad-idea-a-post-apocalyptic-movie-book/#comment-514&quot;&gt;blake&lt;/a&gt;.

It sounds like the only post-apocalyptic part of that movie is the fashion sense, but what the hey.]]></description>
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<p>It sounds like the only post-apocalyptic part of that movie is the fashion sense, but what the hey.</p>
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		By: Nathan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 22:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nathanshumate.com/the-latest-bad-idea-a-post-apocalyptic-movie-book/#comment-513&quot;&gt;blake&lt;/a&gt;.

Cool, thanks. And yes, NO BLADE OF GRASS is right out.]]></description>
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<p>Cool, thanks. And yes, NO BLADE OF GRASS is right out.</p>
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		By: Nathan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nathanshumate.com/the-latest-bad-idea-a-post-apocalyptic-movie-book/#comment-510&quot;&gt;MonsterHunter&lt;/a&gt;.

Good call.]]></description>
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<p>Good call.</p>
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		By: Nathan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 22:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nathanshumate.com/the-latest-bad-idea-a-post-apocalyptic-movie-book/#comment-512&quot;&gt;blake&lt;/a&gt;.

I shall provisionally but it on the list.]]></description>
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<p>I shall provisionally but it on the list.</p>
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		By: blake		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I might also suggest DEATH TRANCE, a spiritual successor to Versus.]]></description>
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		By: blake		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two Hong Kong efforts to consider: THE HEROIC TRIO 2: EXECUTIONERS and FLASH FUTURE KUNG FU.

I assume NO BLADE OF GRASS is apocalyptic and not post-apocalyptic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two Hong Kong efforts to consider: THE HEROIC TRIO 2: EXECUTIONERS and FLASH FUTURE KUNG FU.</p>
<p>I assume NO BLADE OF GRASS is apocalyptic and not post-apocalyptic.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nathanshumate.com/the-latest-bad-idea-a-post-apocalyptic-movie-book/#comment-509&quot;&gt;Nathan&lt;/a&gt;.

It seems to be about life immediately following the nuclear holocaust. Is that transitional to you?]]></description>
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<p>It seems to be about life immediately following the nuclear holocaust. Is that transitional to you?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A requirement I&#039;m mulling over: The characters should not be working to reverse the cause of the apocalypse (scientists working on a cure for the plague, freedom fighters fending off the aliens, etc.).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A requirement I&#8217;m mulling over: The characters should not be working to reverse the cause of the apocalypse (scientists working on a cure for the plague, freedom fighters fending off the aliens, etc.).</p>
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