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		By: Hitch		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nathanshumate.com/movie-seen-recently-clearing-the-decks-part-1/#comment-4260&quot;&gt;RK&lt;/a&gt;.

PLOTTO!  That&#039;s bascially what that is--it&#039;s Plotto. I don&#039;t know who here has ever seen it or used it or tried to use it, just for S&#038;G&#039;s, but what our illustrious and eloquent RK has recited, above, is just that.  Credited with being used by the prolific ESG, in fact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nathanshumate.com/movie-seen-recently-clearing-the-decks-part-1/#comment-4260">RK</a>.</p>
<p>PLOTTO!  That&#8217;s bascially what that is&#8211;it&#8217;s Plotto. I don&#8217;t know who here has ever seen it or used it or tried to use it, just for S&amp;G&#8217;s, but what our illustrious and eloquent RK has recited, above, is just that.  Credited with being used by the prolific ESG, in fact.</p>
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		By: RK		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I doubt A.I. was doing any writing of movie scripts back in 2010, but old storytelling formulas have been around for probably as long as storytelling itself has; A.I. merely helped automate the process that used to be done manually. Case in point: I remember back in the 1990s when I was a teenager seeing a &lt;i&gt;Mad&lt;/i&gt; magazine feature showing a screenwriter&#039;s formula matrix for writing any kind of movie based on a one-sentence premise. The premises were at the head of the rows, while the genres were at the head of the columns; match the premise with the genre, and—tada!—you get a summary of the entire plot in usually just one sentence.

To give an example, one such premise was &quot;A young man goes to meet his prospective fiancee&#039;s family.&quot; Run it through the genres, and...

Slasher: ...her family turns out to be a bunch of deranged killers he has to try to escape.
Romance: ...he gets an awkward but enthusiastic welcome from her oddball family, whom he learns to accept (or at least tolerate).
Action: ...her family gets taken hostage by terrorists and he has to rescue everybody.
Comedy: ...he&#039;s so clumsy and nervous that he ends up accidentally setting her family&#039;s house on fire.
Porno: ...the gal&#039;s lustful mother decides to &quot;try out&quot; her prospective son-in-law (in the  family&#039;s sex dungeon) to see if he&#039;s &quot;hot enough&quot; for her daughter.
Disney: ...her family is impressed to learn the guy&#039;s studying to be a missionary.

While I may be remembering some of the details wrong (since it &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; been some three decades since I read that issue and I don&#039;t remember which issue it was), the same matrix could be applied to any premise and any genre now. For instance...

Superhero: ...the guy&#039;s secretly a masked vigilante, and has to come up with a plausible excuse to step out on his fiancee during the family dinner when his archenemy picks this evening to attack; or the gal and/or her family are all secretly superheroes and &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; have to come up with plausible excuses to keep stepping out on their family dinner to fight the bad guy(s); or &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt;.

So again, maybe &lt;i&gt;Jonah Hex&lt;/i&gt; was a rather formulaic movie, but I don&#039;t think that means A.I. wrote it. If A.I. is being used to make any of these movies now (which &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; explain some of the more head-scratchingly bizarre turns we&#039;ve seen some movies&#039; stories take lately), it&#039;s only been to speed up one of the industry&#039;s age-old well-worn practices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt A.I. was doing any writing of movie scripts back in 2010, but old storytelling formulas have been around for probably as long as storytelling itself has; A.I. merely helped automate the process that used to be done manually. Case in point: I remember back in the 1990s when I was a teenager seeing a <i>Mad</i> magazine feature showing a screenwriter&#8217;s formula matrix for writing any kind of movie based on a one-sentence premise. The premises were at the head of the rows, while the genres were at the head of the columns; match the premise with the genre, and—tada!—you get a summary of the entire plot in usually just one sentence.</p>
<p>To give an example, one such premise was &#8220;A young man goes to meet his prospective fiancee&#8217;s family.&#8221; Run it through the genres, and&#8230;</p>
<p>Slasher: &#8230;her family turns out to be a bunch of deranged killers he has to try to escape.<br />
Romance: &#8230;he gets an awkward but enthusiastic welcome from her oddball family, whom he learns to accept (or at least tolerate).<br />
Action: &#8230;her family gets taken hostage by terrorists and he has to rescue everybody.<br />
Comedy: &#8230;he&#8217;s so clumsy and nervous that he ends up accidentally setting her family&#8217;s house on fire.<br />
Porno: &#8230;the gal&#8217;s lustful mother decides to &#8220;try out&#8221; her prospective son-in-law (in the  family&#8217;s sex dungeon) to see if he&#8217;s &#8220;hot enough&#8221; for her daughter.<br />
Disney: &#8230;her family is impressed to learn the guy&#8217;s studying to be a missionary.</p>
<p>While I may be remembering some of the details wrong (since it <i>has</i> been some three decades since I read that issue and I don&#8217;t remember which issue it was), the same matrix could be applied to any premise and any genre now. For instance&#8230;</p>
<p>Superhero: &#8230;the guy&#8217;s secretly a masked vigilante, and has to come up with a plausible excuse to step out on his fiancee during the family dinner when his archenemy picks this evening to attack; or the gal and/or her family are all secretly superheroes and <i>they</i> have to come up with plausible excuses to keep stepping out on their family dinner to fight the bad guy(s); or <i>both</i>.</p>
<p>So again, maybe <i>Jonah Hex</i> was a rather formulaic movie, but I don&#8217;t think that means A.I. wrote it. If A.I. is being used to make any of these movies now (which <i>would</i> explain some of the more head-scratchingly bizarre turns we&#8217;ve seen some movies&#8217; stories take lately), it&#8217;s only been to speed up one of the industry&#8217;s age-old well-worn practices.</p>
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		By: Hitch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2025 18:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Man on Fire&quot; is a Denzel remake of an earlier film with Scott Glenn, titled (wait for it) &quot;Man on Fire.&quot;  Honestly, I thought that the Glenn version had a different title, but I guess that&#039;s my senility popping up. I preferred the Glenn version, FWIW.

Vis-a-vis Losers: I really like that movie a lot. I think it was undervalued by most.  I&#039;d say that they equate to the usual A-team (B Team!) category and all the actors did well, even that pint-sized lady actress whose name eludes me. All the time. (Although, as a woman of decent height, 5&#039;8&quot; and background, military and martial arts, both, I really can&#039;t abide seeing a 90lb, 5&#039;0&quot; lady throw a 6&#039;2&quot; man around the room. Sorry, but...BTDT and **it does not work.**  Sorry, men who think that looks cool. I used to be able to do a lot when I was young and fit, but...nyah.)

I thought American Ultra blew chunks. Not to be too blunt.  

BENT, yup, with ya there; she was wooden at best. And the ending, the denouement...who didn&#039;t see that coming from about 100 miles away???? Sheesh. 

Hitch]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Man on Fire&#8221; is a Denzel remake of an earlier film with Scott Glenn, titled (wait for it) &#8220;Man on Fire.&#8221;  Honestly, I thought that the Glenn version had a different title, but I guess that&#8217;s my senility popping up. I preferred the Glenn version, FWIW.</p>
<p>Vis-a-vis Losers: I really like that movie a lot. I think it was undervalued by most.  I&#8217;d say that they equate to the usual A-team (B Team!) category and all the actors did well, even that pint-sized lady actress whose name eludes me. All the time. (Although, as a woman of decent height, 5&#8217;8&#8243; and background, military and martial arts, both, I really can&#8217;t abide seeing a 90lb, 5&#8217;0&#8243; lady throw a 6&#8217;2&#8243; man around the room. Sorry, but&#8230;BTDT and **it does not work.**  Sorry, men who think that looks cool. I used to be able to do a lot when I was young and fit, but&#8230;nyah.)</p>
<p>I thought American Ultra blew chunks. Not to be too blunt.  </p>
<p>BENT, yup, with ya there; she was wooden at best. And the ending, the denouement&#8230;who didn&#8217;t see that coming from about 100 miles away???? Sheesh. </p>
<p>Hitch</p>
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